1 00:00:00,438 --> 00:00:06,438 The twin ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach are among the busiest in the world. 2 00:00:06,438 --> 00:00:12,438 Thousands of vessels, both large and small, travel through these deep, dark waters each year. 3 00:00:12,438 --> 00:00:19,438 But some of the most compelling stories about these waters emanate from below the surface, not above. 4 00:00:19,438 --> 00:00:23,438 It is not a hoax. It is real. 5 00:00:24,438 --> 00:00:29,438 In 1966, an unidentified object that reportedly emerged from the channel 6 00:00:29,438 --> 00:00:34,438 is filmed traveling at up to 170 miles per hour over the island. 7 00:00:34,438 --> 00:00:41,438 This is the first of numerous reports of nautical objects displaying many of the same characteristics as so-called UFOs. 8 00:00:41,438 --> 00:00:46,438 But these UFOs have been witnessed traveling into and out of the water. 9 00:00:46,438 --> 00:00:51,438 A bright white light moving pretty quickly towards the water. 10 00:00:51,438 --> 00:00:56,438 They are known as USOs, unidentified submerged objects. 11 00:00:56,438 --> 00:01:00,438 There is something really extraordinary in these waters. 12 00:01:00,438 --> 00:01:04,438 For the first time, new witnesses have come forward. 13 00:01:04,438 --> 00:01:07,438 We're struck with a beam of light. 14 00:01:07,438 --> 00:01:13,438 Supported by documentation and police reports and scientific testing and analysis. 15 00:01:13,438 --> 00:01:15,438 I think we've got our smoking gun. Absolutely. 16 00:01:15,438 --> 00:01:20,438 The team from UFO Magazine, publisher Bill Burns, investigator Pat Oscar, 17 00:01:20,438 --> 00:01:25,439 science intern Jeff Tomlinson, along with science expert Dr. Ted Aquith, 18 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:29,439 opened the case of USOs around Catalina Island. 19 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,439 The USOs are using this place kind of like a hunter's blind. 20 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:33,439 It's a weirdo prey. 21 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:37,439 Is this rash of sighting simply the result of overactive imaginations? 22 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:39,439 Or is it possibly something more? 23 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:43,439 I saw a set of lights unlike any other lights I'd ever seen before. 24 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:46,439 The team attempts to get one step closer to the answers. 25 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:49,439 That's a tail of an airplane. Right there. That's it. 26 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:57,439 For the first time on television, this is case number 66307, unidentified submerged objects. 27 00:02:14,439 --> 00:02:22,439 Catalina is a 175 square mile island, 22 miles to the west-southwest of Los Angeles, California. 28 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:26,439 The Catalina Channel, which separates the island from the coast, 29 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:30,439 is the main corridor for one of the busiest harbors in the world, 30 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,439 the twin ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. 31 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:37,439 To most, the island appears to be an idyllic spot, 32 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:41,439 but the mystery of this area stems not from what is above the surface, 33 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:43,439 but what is beneath it. 34 00:02:43,439 --> 00:02:46,439 You are seeing an unidentified flying object. 35 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:53,439 It all began on April 15, 1966, at approximately 9.45 a.m. 36 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:57,439 An object with no tail and no visible means of propulsion 37 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:04,439 was photographed over Catalina Island, traveling between 130 to 170 miles per hour. 38 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:07,439 The film was taken by Lehman Hansen. 39 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:09,439 Mr. Hansen was a photographer. 40 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:14,439 Mr. Hansen was a professional photographer working for the United States Navy. 41 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:21,439 The craft, silver and disc-shaped, made no sound as it moved swiftly over the mountains and out of sight. 42 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:27,439 This is the first recorded case of the UFOs seen hovering around the island and over the channel. 43 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,439 It wouldn't be the last. 44 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:35,439 Here's the case. 45 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,439 I just spoke with Noah Felice, who's a private pilot, 46 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:44,439 who 30 years ago had an encounter with an unidentified, submerged object, 47 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:47,439 the USO in the waters off Catalina, 48 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:48,439 when BAM! 49 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:52,439 The object illuminates him with a bright light, totally disorienting him, 50 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:59,439 and his plane crashes into what he says is a UFO in Ripper's Cove. 51 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:04,439 So you're saying that Noah Felice's plane crashed as a direct result of contact with the USO? 52 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:06,439 That's what Noah says. 53 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:10,440 Well, if we find that wreck, we might find evidence of USOs. 54 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:18,440 That's right. Baywatch investigated this case 30 years ago, and they actually found the wreckage. 55 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Even if we do find it, 30 years later, aluminum under salt water, it's likely to have deteriorated. 56 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,440 We'll do the best we can. 57 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Okay, so Pat, rolling equipment, Ted, you're doing the research. 58 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,440 I'm out of here to talk to Noah Felice and fly the wheel. 59 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Music 60 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,440 While Bill is flying with Noah, I'll be talking to Paul Allione and David Russo about their sightings, 61 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:55,440 which are very similar to each other, and they're very similar to the famous 1966 sighting that was caught on film. 62 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,440 So we have a lot of strong cases around the Catalina area and the channel. 63 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:08,440 During the late afternoon of December 29, 1968, attorney Paul Allione, a resident of Palos Verdes, California, 64 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,440 witnessed strange lights over the Santa Catalina Channel. 65 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:18,440 According to Allione, the lights flew in formation, then unexpectedly stopped just above the surface of the water. 66 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:25,440 I looked up, and on the horizon, I saw a set of lights that were unlike any other lights I'd ever seen before. 67 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,440 It started to tilt and list. 68 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:35,440 It got to about the 11 o'clock, 5 o'clock position, and it wasn't moving. 69 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,440 I really, to this day, can't tell you what it was. It was nothing I'd ever seen before, after. 70 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:47,440 During the sighting, Allione clicked on his walkie-talkie and heard something that still disturbs him to this day. 71 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,440 I dashed into the garage, and I did kind of a, you know, a childish thing, 72 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,440 as I went and got a walkie-talkie that I got for Christmas, and I'm thinking, hey, I'm going to talk to this thing. 73 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,440 But what happened was, I picked up a ship to shore transmission. 74 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:06,440 The gentleman on the transmission said, quote, that's right, Bob, I don't know what the hell it is. 75 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:15,440 It's about 200 yards off my bow, and it's starting to tilt, and he started to go on to explain exactly what it was that I was seeing. 76 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,440 And that's all I needed to freak out, and I did. 77 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,440 The next night, when the evening news came on, one of the lead stories was, she said something to the effect, 78 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:30,440 well, we got an answer to all those telephone calls that we'd been getting about the strange lights that were seen last night. 79 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:37,440 For a story to make the news about telephone calls and inquiries, there had to have been more than just a few crackpots calling. 80 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,440 There must have been at least dozens of people, probably hundreds of people, that got all excited, 81 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,440 to the point where somebody felt as though they needed to offer up an explanation. 82 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,440 It's that explanation that I found to be rather hollow. 83 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:57,441 The answer was, it was these two crazy college kids that were fooling around with a weather balloon. 84 00:06:57,441 --> 00:06:58,441 What did you think about that? 85 00:06:58,441 --> 00:07:04,441 But it seems to be there's an inordinate amount of explanations that are offered up as being weather balloons. 86 00:07:04,441 --> 00:07:06,441 Including the Roswell crash. 87 00:07:06,441 --> 00:07:17,441 Now as I look back with that knowledge, these explanations, I realize even more that, to me, it confirmed what I saw as being a legitimate anomaly. 88 00:07:17,441 --> 00:07:20,441 Because the explanation given was so absurd. 89 00:07:20,441 --> 00:07:24,441 Yeah, it was absurd, and it fit into a pattern of absurd explanations. 90 00:07:26,441 --> 00:07:33,441 Allione's sighting, along with the 1966 film, were the start of a rash of sightings in this area. 91 00:07:33,441 --> 00:07:42,441 According to the Long Beach Independent, on January 23, 1968, Avalon Sheriff's Deputy Richard Callan witnessed a, quote, 92 00:07:42,441 --> 00:07:48,441 mysterious unidentified floating object that had, quote, lights in its portals. 93 00:07:48,441 --> 00:07:51,441 And then the object exploded. 94 00:07:51,441 --> 00:08:02,441 According to the paper, quote, a bright light illuminated waters around the object, and minutes later a series of flares were shot into the air from the object. 95 00:08:04,441 --> 00:08:11,441 Another story that swept the media was reported by the Los Angeles Times on March 23, 1977. 96 00:08:11,441 --> 00:08:19,441 Sheriff Sergeant Vincent Rupp received dozens of, quote, UFO sightings reported from Sacramento, Salinas, Los Angeles, Orange County, 97 00:08:19,441 --> 00:08:25,441 and March Air Force Base between 3.45 and 4.00 a.m. 98 00:08:25,441 --> 00:08:34,441 According to the paper, these witnesses included military personnel from March Air Force Base and several law enforcement officers around Los Angeles. 99 00:08:34,441 --> 00:08:47,441 One witness, Mark Hogan, a runway worker at LAX, said, quote, the teardrop or tin can shaped lights sweep in at high speed from the direction of Santa Catalina Island about 3.30 a.m. 100 00:08:47,441 --> 00:08:50,441 In my opinion, they weren't natural. 101 00:08:51,441 --> 00:09:02,441 A military spokesman at March Air Force Base confirmed that the objects had, in fact, been seen from the base and said, quote, there had been no rocket or missile testings which could have accounted for the lights. 102 00:09:02,441 --> 00:09:05,441 The objects did not show up on any radar readings. 103 00:09:06,441 --> 00:09:09,441 Now I'm off to talk to David Russo about his USO experience. 104 00:09:09,441 --> 00:09:19,441 Now what's significant about David Russo's USO sighting is that after the sighting, he took the time to make a sketch of the craft while the details were fresh in his mind. 105 00:09:19,441 --> 00:09:25,441 And the more information we have, the closer we are to solving the mystery of USOs around Catalina. 106 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:29,441 I live in Long Beach in a couple of blocks from the ocean. 107 00:09:29,441 --> 00:09:38,442 David Russo, a retired attorney, reportedly witnessed bright lights over the channel on August 4th, 2006, while walking along the shoreline. 108 00:09:38,442 --> 00:09:47,442 Late at night, about 11.30, 11.35, a bright white light off to the west out near San Pedro caught my eye. 109 00:09:49,442 --> 00:09:56,442 And it was moving towards the water at a very steep angle, moving pretty quickly. 110 00:09:57,442 --> 00:10:07,442 It got to a point, maybe, half a mile, a mile out in front of me, and it just stopped. 111 00:10:08,442 --> 00:10:10,442 Over the water, on the water? 112 00:10:10,442 --> 00:10:14,442 Over the water, maybe 10, 15, 20 feet above the water. 113 00:10:14,442 --> 00:10:21,442 A shorter side had three or four blue lights on it, and the longer side seemed to have six or eight blue lights on it. 114 00:10:21,442 --> 00:10:22,442 Okay. 115 00:10:22,442 --> 00:10:26,442 It rotated and did this for about a half a minute to 45 seconds. 116 00:10:26,442 --> 00:10:39,442 Then the blue lights went off, and it just, from a stop, went out towards Catalina Island, and less than a second. 117 00:10:39,442 --> 00:10:42,442 I'd rather would have not seen it. 118 00:10:43,442 --> 00:10:45,442 You think life would be easier if you just hadn't seen it? 119 00:10:45,442 --> 00:10:46,442 Yes. 120 00:10:46,442 --> 00:10:53,442 And now there's this little piece back here that just is always wondering and always thinking, 121 00:10:53,442 --> 00:10:55,442 what the heck did I see? 122 00:10:55,442 --> 00:10:57,442 And will I ever know? 123 00:10:57,442 --> 00:11:05,442 The dark, mysterious waters surrounding Catalina Island, one of the most active hotspots on Earth for reported USO sightings, 124 00:11:05,442 --> 00:11:08,442 unidentified submerged objects. 125 00:11:09,442 --> 00:11:17,442 On January 26th, 1980, a pilot's reported encounter with the USO above the Santa Catalina Channel, 126 00:11:17,442 --> 00:11:22,442 let one man dead, and has become one of the seminal USO events in history. 127 00:11:22,442 --> 00:11:30,442 Noah Felice, a pilot with 14 years experience and his cousin Mark, take off from Catalina Island, 128 00:11:30,442 --> 00:11:34,442 heading toward Las Vegas in Noah's 1972 Piper Cherokee. 129 00:11:34,442 --> 00:11:38,442 According to Felice, he spots an object in the water. 130 00:11:38,442 --> 00:11:47,442 As he loops around to get a better look, the unidentified object suddenly shoots out a beam of light that renders Noah's plane inoperable. 131 00:11:47,442 --> 00:11:53,442 Moments later, the plane falls over 1,000 feet into the deep waters of the Channel. 132 00:11:53,442 --> 00:11:58,442 Noah is rescued. His cousin Mark does not survive. 133 00:11:58,442 --> 00:12:01,442 It's an important case for three big reasons. 134 00:12:01,442 --> 00:12:06,442 One, it's current. You're not talking about some 60-year-old case where all the witnesses are gone. 135 00:12:06,442 --> 00:12:11,442 Two, Noah's a pilot. He's a trained observer. He knows what he's looking for. 136 00:12:11,442 --> 00:12:13,442 He's not given to fantasies. 137 00:12:13,442 --> 00:12:19,442 Three, that credibility is tested in court because Noah Felice is a private investigator. 138 00:12:19,442 --> 00:12:24,443 In every single case, he's on the witness stand, he's testified. 139 00:12:24,443 --> 00:12:29,443 It's as credible as you can get. It's a great story. We're excited to investigate. 140 00:12:30,443 --> 00:12:37,443 So why don't you tell me what it was like as you took off from here 28 years ago and flew out to the island? 141 00:12:37,443 --> 00:12:44,443 It took off and just out of the terrible sky, my little cousin told me he had five to six months to live. 142 00:12:44,443 --> 00:12:47,443 This was a person you'd known since you were a wife. 143 00:12:47,443 --> 00:12:48,443 We grew up together. 144 00:12:48,443 --> 00:12:53,443 We were as close to biological brothers, I think, as two males could get. 145 00:12:53,443 --> 00:12:57,443 Once he said that, then they had five or six months to live. 146 00:12:57,443 --> 00:13:03,443 I was going to get a vector in the air and go right straight to Las Vegas and kind of lighten the mood. 147 00:13:03,443 --> 00:13:11,443 So basically you were just going to head off to Vegas and spend some time together because you didn't know how long you really had. 148 00:13:11,443 --> 00:13:16,443 Noah and Bill board a plane to fly Noah's original route from 1980. 149 00:13:16,443 --> 00:13:20,443 You took off from here and what happened then? 150 00:13:20,443 --> 00:13:25,443 I flew flying along and I started to get very strange feelings. 151 00:13:25,443 --> 00:13:28,443 Kind of like when a hair goes back on your back. 152 00:13:28,443 --> 00:13:33,443 I see a very strange optic in the water about the size of two houses. 153 00:13:33,443 --> 00:13:36,443 No definitive shape that I could see because of the water. 154 00:13:36,443 --> 00:13:40,443 From here, Felice's account takes a radical turn. 155 00:13:40,443 --> 00:13:45,443 He says that as he came around to get a closer look at the craft, he saw figures. 156 00:13:45,443 --> 00:13:48,443 On the top of this object was a door. 157 00:13:48,443 --> 00:13:52,443 It wasn't really a person, but it wasn't not a person. 158 00:13:52,443 --> 00:13:59,443 I didn't know what to think. That's why I decided to make a turn and come around back and get a better view. 159 00:13:59,443 --> 00:14:00,443 And what happened then? 160 00:14:00,443 --> 00:14:03,443 We were struck with a beam of light. 161 00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:12,443 According to Felice, after he made this turn, he was blinded with an extremely bright light emanating from this object. 162 00:14:12,443 --> 00:14:15,443 The light tracked the plane for the next 34 seconds. 163 00:14:15,443 --> 00:14:20,443 At the same time, it seemed to also take control of the plane's instrumentation. 164 00:14:20,443 --> 00:14:23,443 It was alive. It was like a liquid light. 165 00:14:23,443 --> 00:14:27,443 That's when sound started treading off. 166 00:14:27,443 --> 00:14:31,443 You couldn't feel the vibration in the chair from the engine. 167 00:14:31,443 --> 00:14:34,443 And we got hit with a second beam. 168 00:14:34,443 --> 00:14:40,443 The second beam, according to Felice, took even more control over the plane, 169 00:14:40,443 --> 00:14:43,443 finally bringing it to its tragic fate. 170 00:14:43,443 --> 00:14:46,443 The inside of the airplane was glowing. 171 00:14:46,443 --> 00:14:50,443 And I knew we were removing because the light was becoming more intense. 172 00:14:50,443 --> 00:14:55,443 And it seemed as though we would pass through not a doorway physical, 173 00:14:55,443 --> 00:15:00,443 but a doorway of a port or some sort of framework of the light. 174 00:15:00,443 --> 00:15:03,443 And then it was banged. 175 00:15:04,443 --> 00:15:11,444 Noah, along with his cousin Mark's body, were recovered by a Baywatch patrol craft 20 minutes later. 176 00:15:11,444 --> 00:15:16,444 Upon impact, Noah believes he would have been thrown from the cockpit. 177 00:15:16,444 --> 00:15:21,444 His seatbelt would have been torn, and the windshield would have been certainly destroyed. 178 00:15:21,444 --> 00:15:24,444 But no such trauma occurred. 179 00:15:24,444 --> 00:15:28,444 Noah only sustained a concussion and a broken leg. 180 00:15:28,444 --> 00:15:33,444 Noah is convinced that he was somehow rescued by the USO, 181 00:15:33,444 --> 00:15:37,444 and he further believes that when the plane is found underwater by the team, 182 00:15:37,444 --> 00:15:42,444 both seatbelts will be fastened and the windshield will be fully intact. 183 00:15:42,444 --> 00:15:45,444 It was unbelievable. I was freezing. 184 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:49,444 I remember blood everywhere. I mean, it was horrible. It was bad. 185 00:15:49,444 --> 00:15:54,444 I was dead for 15 to 20 minutes before they found me. 186 00:15:54,444 --> 00:15:59,444 I was dead for 15 to 20 minutes. That's close to a medical impossibility. 187 00:15:59,444 --> 00:16:06,444 Theoretically, after blood stops reaching your brain for something like 5 to 7 minutes, 188 00:16:06,444 --> 00:16:10,444 your brain cells shrink and you become brain dead. 189 00:16:10,444 --> 00:16:15,444 And the other thing, I don't understand why the sharks didn't get me. 190 00:16:15,444 --> 00:16:20,444 We're going to go down to the bottom of that trench, and if that plane's down there, 191 00:16:20,444 --> 00:16:24,444 we're going to bring it up. Let's see what we can find. 192 00:16:24,444 --> 00:16:31,444 We've just flown the route with Noah Falees to see where the USO shot him down. 193 00:16:31,444 --> 00:16:35,444 Now, it's up to Pat to get out there to find the wreck. 194 00:16:35,444 --> 00:16:38,444 Noah said he doesn't remember getting out of the cockpit, 195 00:16:38,444 --> 00:16:40,444 but he had no cuts or scratches on him. 196 00:16:40,444 --> 00:16:43,444 How did he get out of a cockpit if not through the windshield? 197 00:16:43,444 --> 00:16:47,444 Is the seatbelt attached? If it's attached, that gives credibility to his story 198 00:16:47,444 --> 00:16:50,444 that the aliens took him out of the seat. 199 00:16:50,444 --> 00:16:56,444 And what about the instruments? If we find an instrument magnetically locked in a certain position, 200 00:16:56,444 --> 00:16:59,444 it'll tell us what hit that plane. 201 00:17:03,444 --> 00:17:06,444 To solve this case, we've got to find that plane. 202 00:17:06,444 --> 00:17:08,444 Let's shovel it. 203 00:17:10,444 --> 00:17:13,444 Coming up now on our first point, 204 00:17:13,444 --> 00:17:19,444 where the Avalon Sheriff's Station is saying their report says the wreckage lives, 205 00:17:19,444 --> 00:17:21,444 which is on Empire Landing. 206 00:17:21,444 --> 00:17:25,444 The Isthmus Baywatch says it's over in Ripper's Cove. 207 00:17:25,444 --> 00:17:30,444 The team has secured the reports from the Avalon Catalina Sheriff's Station. 208 00:17:30,444 --> 00:17:36,444 It says there are two probable locations for Noah's plane, Empire Landing and Ripper's Cove. 209 00:17:36,444 --> 00:17:40,444 Both locations are approximately eight miles from Avalon 210 00:17:40,444 --> 00:17:43,444 and are on the Los Angeles side of the island. 211 00:17:43,444 --> 00:17:50,445 The team is heading to the first location, Empire Landing, where the water's depth reaches 60 feet. 212 00:17:50,445 --> 00:17:52,445 How much more do we have to go? 213 00:17:52,445 --> 00:17:54,445 Another 40 feet. 214 00:17:54,445 --> 00:18:00,445 The team is lowering a side scan sonar device that will be towed behind the boat. 215 00:18:00,445 --> 00:18:04,445 Side scan sonar bounces radio waves off the bottom of the channel 216 00:18:04,445 --> 00:18:10,445 and sends a signal back up to a computer on board that converts the soundings into a picture. 217 00:18:10,445 --> 00:18:14,445 Joining the team are the sonar operators from Aqua Survey. 218 00:18:14,445 --> 00:18:18,445 What would it's heart it look like? What should I be looking for on this screen? 219 00:18:18,445 --> 00:18:20,445 High reflectivity, metal. 220 00:18:20,445 --> 00:18:28,445 So anything that's too straight, anything that looks joined, anything that's not curved, doesn't look eroded. 221 00:18:28,445 --> 00:18:34,445 They say it's sort of like pornography. You can't describe it, but you know when you see it. 222 00:18:36,445 --> 00:18:39,445 The team arrives at Empire Landing. 223 00:18:39,445 --> 00:18:43,445 Are we in the area right now, in the target area? 224 00:18:43,445 --> 00:18:45,445 Yeah, as we're coming up on it. 225 00:18:45,445 --> 00:18:51,445 The Aqua Survey team begins their sweep and will scan along parallel search lines called transits. 226 00:18:51,445 --> 00:18:55,445 Each transit takes approximately 30 minutes to cover. 227 00:18:55,445 --> 00:19:01,445 According to the Avalon Sheriff's report, the plane should be along one of these transits. 228 00:19:01,445 --> 00:19:03,445 So what's that? 229 00:19:03,445 --> 00:19:06,445 Are we close to the site? 230 00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:08,445 We're close. 231 00:19:08,445 --> 00:19:10,445 You should definitely start looking. 232 00:19:10,445 --> 00:19:13,445 Yeah, we're just going to go through a debris field there. 233 00:19:13,445 --> 00:19:18,445 Right, but he said that debris field is bull kelp. 234 00:19:18,445 --> 00:19:25,445 What showed up on Sonar is actually Bull Kelp, a fast-growing type of seaweed common on the Pacific Coast. 235 00:19:25,445 --> 00:19:29,445 The density of the kelp has given a false reading on the Sonar. 236 00:19:29,445 --> 00:19:31,445 Do we think it's a plane? 237 00:19:31,445 --> 00:19:32,445 I don't think so. 238 00:19:32,445 --> 00:19:33,445 I don't think so. 239 00:19:33,445 --> 00:19:35,445 Uh, no, it didn't look like a plane to me. 240 00:19:35,445 --> 00:19:37,445 That's a negative. 241 00:19:37,445 --> 00:19:41,445 The team has confirmed that the wreckage is not at this site. 242 00:19:41,445 --> 00:19:47,445 It heads to the second possible location, Ripper's Cove, 4.5 miles to the east. 243 00:19:48,445 --> 00:20:01,445 I feel the urgency to follow this route 4.5 miles east of the Earthman, and I'm sure we're going to hit that plane between here and that peak. 244 00:20:01,445 --> 00:20:03,445 I want that plane. 245 00:20:03,445 --> 00:20:15,445 Oh, wait a minute. 246 00:20:15,445 --> 00:20:17,445 Wait a minute. 247 00:20:17,445 --> 00:20:18,445 Wait a minute. 248 00:20:18,445 --> 00:20:19,445 Wait a minute. 249 00:20:19,445 --> 00:20:20,445 Uh-oh. 250 00:20:20,445 --> 00:20:23,445 Look at the signal strength return here. 251 00:20:23,445 --> 00:20:25,445 Now that's high. 252 00:20:25,445 --> 00:20:27,445 That's a tail of an airplane. 253 00:20:27,445 --> 00:20:28,445 Right there. 254 00:20:28,445 --> 00:20:29,445 That's it. 255 00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:30,445 Look at that. 256 00:20:30,445 --> 00:20:32,445 That's a 15-foot wing, 30-foot wingspan. 257 00:20:32,445 --> 00:20:33,445 Look at the tail. 258 00:20:33,445 --> 00:20:34,446 Look at the tail. 259 00:20:34,446 --> 00:20:36,446 I think we got a tail and a wing. 260 00:20:36,446 --> 00:20:37,446 See it? 261 00:20:37,446 --> 00:20:38,446 We got a tail and a wing. 262 00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:39,446 Could this be it, Noah? 263 00:20:39,446 --> 00:20:40,446 Come over here. 264 00:20:40,446 --> 00:20:41,446 Come over here. 265 00:20:41,446 --> 00:20:42,446 Come here. 266 00:20:42,446 --> 00:20:43,446 I'm passing over a debris field. 267 00:20:43,446 --> 00:20:44,446 No way. 268 00:20:44,446 --> 00:20:45,446 We're not going to look. 269 00:20:45,446 --> 00:20:48,446 You're not going to look like a tail and a wing and a tail. 270 00:20:48,446 --> 00:20:50,446 A fuel slug and a tail to you? 271 00:20:50,446 --> 00:20:52,446 Oh my God. 272 00:20:52,446 --> 00:20:54,446 Hey, Captain Dave. 273 00:20:54,446 --> 00:20:55,446 Yeah. 274 00:20:55,446 --> 00:20:56,446 Like we're over some kind of debris field. 275 00:20:56,446 --> 00:20:58,446 I think it's time to put some divers in the water. 276 00:20:58,446 --> 00:20:59,446 Sounds good. 277 00:20:59,446 --> 00:21:00,446 Let's get them in. 278 00:21:00,446 --> 00:21:01,446 Okay. 279 00:21:01,446 --> 00:21:04,446 We got 70-foot water underneath the boat. 280 00:21:04,446 --> 00:21:06,446 Head due north. 281 00:21:06,446 --> 00:21:07,446 U-pattern. 282 00:21:07,446 --> 00:21:09,446 Don't go below 100-foot. 283 00:21:09,446 --> 00:21:10,446 Okay, Jake. 284 00:21:10,446 --> 00:21:15,446 If you find the wreck, I want you to look to see first if the windshield is intact. 285 00:21:15,446 --> 00:21:18,446 I want you to look inside the cockpit if that's intact. 286 00:21:18,446 --> 00:21:25,446 If the cockpit's intact, look to see if the seat belts, either one, are still hooked up. 287 00:21:25,446 --> 00:21:31,446 After the crash, Noah claims he was removed from the plane by an unknown entity, possibly 288 00:21:31,446 --> 00:21:34,446 the same entity that brought the plane down. 289 00:21:34,446 --> 00:21:37,446 Noah was rescued outside of the plane. 290 00:21:37,446 --> 00:21:40,446 The only way out would have been through the windshield. 291 00:21:40,446 --> 00:21:46,446 If the seat belt and windshield are intact, it would support Noah's story of what happened. 292 00:21:46,446 --> 00:21:48,446 Noah, they're giving the tail number. 293 00:21:48,446 --> 00:21:49,446 That's 81-mic. 294 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:50,446 81-mic. 295 00:21:50,446 --> 00:21:51,446 Good luck. 296 00:21:51,446 --> 00:21:54,446 Bring her up for us. 297 00:21:55,446 --> 00:22:10,446 In January 1980, an unidentified submerged object shoots a beam of light at Pilot Noah 298 00:22:10,446 --> 00:22:19,446 Feliz's plane, causing it to crash into the Santa Catalina Channel. 299 00:22:19,446 --> 00:22:22,446 The team is now searching for the downed plane. 300 00:22:22,446 --> 00:22:29,446 If they find this wreckage and the windshield is intact, they may have evidence of USO contact. 301 00:22:49,446 --> 00:22:52,446 Jake, any luck? 302 00:22:52,446 --> 00:22:54,446 I don't know what that plate was from. 303 00:22:54,446 --> 00:22:56,446 A small boat. 304 00:22:56,446 --> 00:22:57,446 What? 305 00:22:57,446 --> 00:22:59,446 A small boat. 306 00:22:59,446 --> 00:23:02,446 Well, at first I thought it was the plane. 307 00:23:02,446 --> 00:23:05,446 I was like, oh man, here it is. 308 00:23:05,446 --> 00:23:08,446 You start like moving around, looking at it, looking at it. 309 00:23:08,446 --> 00:23:11,446 I go to the back and I see this very familiar shape. 310 00:23:11,446 --> 00:23:13,446 It's an outboard motor. 311 00:23:13,446 --> 00:23:21,447 Outside of Feliz's testimony, two other credible sources continue to list this area as the crash location. 312 00:23:21,447 --> 00:23:25,447 Catalina Baywatch and the Avalon Sheriff's Station. 313 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:28,447 But now the mystery has deepened. 314 00:23:28,447 --> 00:23:31,447 The aircraft is not here. 315 00:23:31,447 --> 00:23:34,447 Jake's come out of the water and he's done a lot of diving. 316 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:39,447 He found a lot of targets down there, but didn't find Noah Feliz's plane. 317 00:23:39,447 --> 00:23:40,447 Where is it? 318 00:23:40,447 --> 00:23:43,447 We're going to send Jeff and Ted to the lab. 319 00:23:43,447 --> 00:23:48,447 They're going to analyze the currents, the slope, the tides, the winds. 320 00:23:48,447 --> 00:23:52,447 They're going to find out what might have happened to Noah's plane. 321 00:23:52,447 --> 00:23:58,447 This is a mystery, but maybe in the lab we can figure out what happened to all that wreckage of Noah Feliz's plane. 322 00:23:58,447 --> 00:24:04,447 Since 1980, the plane could have drifted from its original position. 323 00:24:04,447 --> 00:24:06,447 Hey John, Jeff. 324 00:24:06,447 --> 00:24:07,447 Thanks. 325 00:24:07,447 --> 00:24:11,447 Jeff and I are here in Tyndall's lab and we're going to recalculate the position, 326 00:24:11,447 --> 00:24:17,447 see if we can uncover any additional information that would help us get a better estimate of the location of the aircraft. 327 00:24:17,447 --> 00:24:23,447 Science producer John Tyndall will demonstrate the forces at work below the surface of the water 328 00:24:23,447 --> 00:24:28,447 and what effect that might have had on Noah's plane over the past 27 years. 329 00:24:28,447 --> 00:24:35,447 The Bernoulli effect basically says that fluid in motion has less pressure than static fluids. 330 00:24:35,447 --> 00:24:42,447 If you look at these two cards right here, we can actually pull them together by speeding up the liquid between them, 331 00:24:42,447 --> 00:24:46,447 or the fluid, in this case air, and we'll pull them right together. 332 00:24:46,447 --> 00:24:49,447 We see this all the time with airplane wings. 333 00:24:49,447 --> 00:24:52,447 The air moving over the top of the wing is moving faster than the air under the wing. 334 00:24:52,447 --> 00:24:55,447 It creates a low pressure zone. You get lift. 335 00:24:55,447 --> 00:25:00,447 What we think might have happened to this wreck under the water is that as you have the wreck sitting there, 336 00:25:00,447 --> 00:25:04,447 and as the water currents are going over this, it's lifting it slightly, 337 00:25:04,447 --> 00:25:10,447 and if it's on an incline, it could be lifting and sliding down and lifting and sliding down and pumping itself deeper and deeper and deeper. 338 00:25:10,447 --> 00:25:16,447 Let's see if we can prove that the aircraft fuselage has been agitated by a Bernoulli effect. 339 00:25:16,447 --> 00:25:21,447 If you look at the topography of the location just offshore there on Catalina Island, 340 00:25:21,447 --> 00:25:24,447 you have a very steep cliff face coming down to the waterline, 341 00:25:24,447 --> 00:25:28,447 and it actually continues at a very steep slope down into the depths. 342 00:25:28,447 --> 00:25:35,447 If the aircraft landed up close to the shoreline, and we believe that it landed in 40 to 50 feet of water, 343 00:25:35,447 --> 00:25:38,447 then it settled on to the bottom at a steep slope angle, 344 00:25:38,447 --> 00:25:44,447 which could lead to it sliding, moving over 30 years down slope and down into the depths. 345 00:25:44,447 --> 00:25:48,447 I'm going to start the current flow. It's going to be a little loud, but we'll just have to talk over that. 346 00:25:48,447 --> 00:25:55,447 You see how it's actually digging out underneath the front side of the object and building up material. 347 00:25:55,447 --> 00:25:59,447 There goes that one. There. Settling. Settling down. 348 00:25:59,447 --> 00:26:03,448 As water rushes toward the sample, the ocean floor would be pushed away, 349 00:26:03,448 --> 00:26:07,448 allowing gravity to pull the object further downhill. 350 00:26:07,448 --> 00:26:12,448 I think with the first dive, we didn't really have a good sense of just how steep this drop-off was. 351 00:26:12,448 --> 00:26:17,448 In order to determine the location of the plane after almost 30 years of drifting, 352 00:26:17,448 --> 00:26:21,448 Ted uses the length of the Catalina Airstrip as a guide. 353 00:26:21,448 --> 00:26:25,448 Catalina Airstrip at this scale is a little bit over an inch and a half in length. 354 00:26:25,448 --> 00:26:32,448 We're getting a contour here that in about 0.2 inch is 60 feet of additional depth. 355 00:26:32,448 --> 00:26:38,448 The amount of drift caused by the current, along with the steepness of the ocean floor in this area, 356 00:26:38,448 --> 00:26:41,448 may have caused the plane to fall deeper into the channel. 357 00:26:41,448 --> 00:26:45,448 This effect is known as mass wasting. 358 00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:52,448 Mass wasting is any time you have movement of rocks, dirt, debris, downhill being pulled by gravity. 359 00:26:52,448 --> 00:26:56,448 That's how you get mudslides, or in the case of underwater, you get the debris moving downhill. 360 00:26:56,448 --> 00:27:01,448 In this case in Catalina, we have a number of the factors that would really exacerbate that effect. 361 00:27:01,448 --> 00:27:06,448 The team believes the wetness of the soil, the lack of cohesion in the ocean sand, 362 00:27:06,448 --> 00:27:11,448 and the angle of incline are all causes for why this plane is missing. 363 00:27:11,448 --> 00:27:15,448 You can see the big rocks are already rolling down. 364 00:27:15,448 --> 00:27:20,448 So look at this mass wasting. Now just imagine if there were an object on the surface of the sand. 365 00:27:20,448 --> 00:27:24,448 It would just be traveling right down the hill with the whole pile of sand. 366 00:27:24,448 --> 00:27:29,448 So now there's our airplane fuselage sitting on the surface. 367 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:36,448 So you're actually pushing water uphill against it, and we're going to see if it still falls downhill against that. 368 00:27:37,448 --> 00:27:42,448 Look at that. It came at it. It fell towards against the current. 369 00:27:44,448 --> 00:27:48,448 The relationship between gravity and the cohesion effect on the granules, 370 00:27:48,448 --> 00:27:53,448 we can see that over a short period of time, the object moved fairly quickly. 371 00:27:53,448 --> 00:27:58,448 And over a long period of time, say 30 years, this object could have traveled quite far. 372 00:27:58,448 --> 00:28:01,448 Guys, I think we've got our smoking gun. Absolutely. 373 00:28:01,448 --> 00:28:06,448 I have no doubt that in the location where we expect this crash site to be, 374 00:28:06,448 --> 00:28:13,448 with that slope and all the factors, that we've got a good amount of mass transport moving downhill into the depths. 375 00:28:13,448 --> 00:28:18,448 Based on this model and these experiments, we know this aircraft is further offshore. 376 00:28:18,448 --> 00:28:21,448 Right. And we'll just set up a new search grid just a bit further offshore. 377 00:28:21,448 --> 00:28:28,448 Based on the experiments in the lab, the team heads out for a new area where they believe the wreckage has drifted. 378 00:28:28,448 --> 00:28:32,448 It's two miles east of their original search location. 379 00:28:33,448 --> 00:28:38,448 Based on some new information we have, which is the expected water current in that area, 380 00:28:38,448 --> 00:28:41,448 we've extended the search pattern into some deeper water. 381 00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:47,448 The new search area moves the team closer to the San Pedro Basin, at a depth of almost one mile. 382 00:28:47,448 --> 00:28:50,449 It is one of the deepest sections of the channel. 383 00:28:50,449 --> 00:28:55,449 Many UFO researchers believe that the high concentration of USO sightings here 384 00:28:55,449 --> 00:28:59,449 might be somehow related to this deep trench. 385 00:28:59,449 --> 00:29:04,449 They say that the depth offers an ideal hiding spot for USOs. 386 00:29:05,449 --> 00:29:08,449 And this is what we're looking for. It's a Piper Cherokee low wing. 387 00:29:08,449 --> 00:29:11,449 We think that the wreck is somewhere around here, right? 388 00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:14,449 In the previous scans we've done are along this highlighted area. 389 00:29:14,449 --> 00:29:19,449 What we're predicting here is that this wreck has actually been slowly working its way down this steep slope. 390 00:29:19,449 --> 00:29:22,449 Getting out into deeper and deeper water. 391 00:29:22,449 --> 00:29:26,449 The strong current in the channel will cause objects to drift over time. 392 00:29:26,449 --> 00:29:32,449 As the current lifts objects from the floor, gravity will slowly pull it deeper into the channel. 393 00:29:32,449 --> 00:29:38,449 This is the scientific theory, but the team now has to consider a new theory. 394 00:29:38,449 --> 00:29:43,449 Could the plane wreckage have possibly been taken by a USO? 395 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:45,449 We're going to speak to Preston then. 396 00:29:45,449 --> 00:29:51,449 Preston is going to tell us what some of the stories are about the mysteries of this particular channel. 397 00:29:51,449 --> 00:29:56,449 He's written a lot of books on UFOs and USOs over Southern California. 398 00:29:56,449 --> 00:30:05,449 He's going to help us comb the mysteries of this channel and find out exactly what's going on with USOs over the Catalina Trench. 399 00:30:06,449 --> 00:30:10,449 I think it's one of the hot spots for a USO activity in particular in the world. 400 00:30:10,449 --> 00:30:16,449 It's extraordinary. The activity here goes back to at least 1947, the dawn of the modern age of UFOs. 401 00:30:16,449 --> 00:30:21,449 I've collected probably 50, 100 reports of this kind. Just this area here. 402 00:30:21,449 --> 00:30:27,449 USO researcher and author Preston Dennett has tracked numerous reports in the Santa Catalina Channel 403 00:30:27,449 --> 00:30:33,449 and has a controversial theory on the concentration of USO sightings in this area. 404 00:30:33,449 --> 00:30:40,449 And I came up with a theory that perhaps there is an underwater base here, which sounds fantastic, I know, 405 00:30:40,449 --> 00:30:43,449 but how else can you explain the huge number of reports? 406 00:30:43,449 --> 00:30:46,449 Why would they choose this place as a base of all places? 407 00:30:46,449 --> 00:30:48,449 They're here because of us. 408 00:30:48,449 --> 00:30:53,449 And what's unique about this particular area is it's very close to a large population base, Los Angeles. 409 00:30:53,449 --> 00:30:58,449 So my theory is that the USOs are using this place kind of like a hunter's blind. 410 00:30:58,449 --> 00:31:05,449 They're able to hide their craft, do whatever they need to do, and still have access to a very large population base. 411 00:31:05,449 --> 00:31:09,449 It turns out the geography of this area is riddled with caves. 412 00:31:09,449 --> 00:31:15,449 And underground tunnels leading from say, Edwards Air Force Base to Vandenberg to Catalina Island. 413 00:31:15,449 --> 00:31:18,449 So there is some military involved in here. 414 00:31:18,449 --> 00:31:21,449 I've got a case which took place here in 1967. 415 00:31:21,449 --> 00:31:26,449 A gentleman was actually abducted right here in Avalon Harbor off the boat. 416 00:31:26,449 --> 00:31:31,449 And he recalled under hypnosis being taken into an area where there was rock walls. 417 00:31:31,449 --> 00:31:34,450 He had the distinct impression this was underground. 418 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:36,450 It had to be somewhere close. 419 00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:39,450 Where else would it be but, you know, in the bay here? 420 00:31:39,450 --> 00:31:44,450 The Santa Catalina Channel has a depth of almost one mile. 421 00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:47,450 And if there were caves and tunnels beneath the water, 422 00:31:47,450 --> 00:31:52,450 conventional technology would have trouble even confirming their existence. 423 00:31:52,450 --> 00:31:57,450 We cannot travel to the extreme depths that these craft can. 424 00:31:57,450 --> 00:32:00,450 Even our big nukes submarines can't travel down to those bases? 425 00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:04,450 Not with the ease that these craft can do. 426 00:32:04,450 --> 00:32:08,450 These craft are able to actually come up out of the water and fly straight up. 427 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:10,450 We have nothing that can do that. 428 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:14,450 Had you thought about what kind of technology it takes that they may have to do this? 429 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:17,450 Whatever it is, it's way beyond, I think, anything that we have. 430 00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:22,450 What's spooky that you're telling me about is when you call this place a hunter's blind. 431 00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:25,450 Because if it's a hunter's blind, there's a hunter. 432 00:32:25,450 --> 00:32:28,450 And the only other people around here are us and we're the prey. 433 00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:30,450 I know it's a little disconcerting. 434 00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:34,450 I think the witnesses, they come to the realization that we are not alone. 435 00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:38,450 And that we have not been alone for a long, long time. 436 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:45,450 Well, if I'm a little bit green in the face, 437 00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:48,450 it's because the crossing to Catalina was a bit rough. 438 00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:52,450 We had about an hour of bouncing on eight-foot swells, 439 00:32:52,450 --> 00:32:59,450 so that didn't really go well with my scrambled eggs breakfast that I had this morning. 440 00:32:59,450 --> 00:33:01,450 Let's get this fish in the water. 441 00:33:01,450 --> 00:33:02,450 Yeah. Okay. 442 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:07,450 Captain Ray Arnst has been sailing the waters of the Catalina Channel for over 20 years. 443 00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:11,450 Okay, we're set up and rolling. Let's make it a record. 444 00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:16,450 We've got our side scan sonar in the water, or fish as it's called. 445 00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:19,450 And we're going back and forth on our grid, searching for our target. 446 00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:22,450 We've got a little bit of a hit on the side scan. 447 00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:24,450 What we want to do now is we want to run the sounder over it, 448 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,450 see if we can find a target. 449 00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:28,450 So what does the hit look like? 450 00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:29,450 It's cylindrical. 451 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:30,450 Cylindrical? 452 00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:31,450 Like an aircraft fuselage? 453 00:33:31,450 --> 00:33:32,450 Yes. 454 00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:35,450 Would we not also see wings or anything else? 455 00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:37,450 Why would we only see the fuselage? 456 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:38,450 It could have broken off on impact. 457 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:41,450 It could be the orientation where you can't see the wings. 458 00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:43,450 Maybe you're looking right down along the way. 459 00:33:43,450 --> 00:33:44,450 Lots of reason. 460 00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:48,450 The team continues its search of Ripper's Cove. 461 00:33:48,450 --> 00:33:51,450 Hey Ted, better take a look at this. 462 00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:52,450 What do you got? 463 00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:55,450 I got one that looks just like an airplane on the side scan. 464 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:57,450 Yeah, excellent. 465 00:33:57,450 --> 00:33:59,450 Very distinctive, looks like an engine, wings. 466 00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:01,450 That definitely looks like an airplane. 467 00:34:01,450 --> 00:34:04,450 Wow, so it's not just a target, it actually looks like a plane. 468 00:34:04,450 --> 00:34:05,450 That's an airplane. 469 00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:07,450 Actually, I'm going to go in the water with you this time. 470 00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:08,450 Let's both go. 471 00:34:09,450 --> 00:34:13,450 I'm really excited that we have a target that actually looks like a plane. 472 00:34:13,450 --> 00:34:16,450 And there's a high likelihood that this is the plane. 473 00:34:16,450 --> 00:34:20,451 If he was taken by extraterrestrials from the craft, 474 00:34:20,451 --> 00:34:25,451 the windshield wouldn't be broken and the seatbelt should still be intact. 475 00:34:26,451 --> 00:34:31,451 So I'm hoping to find a windshield that is not broken and seatbelts that are intact. 476 00:34:31,451 --> 00:34:35,451 That would, I'm letting credibility to his story of extraterrestrial contact. 477 00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:43,451 Pat and Ted search a plane crash site at 33 degrees 27 minutes north 478 00:34:43,451 --> 00:34:47,451 and 118 degrees 25 minutes west. 479 00:34:48,451 --> 00:34:52,451 The wreck sits approximately 100 feet below the surface. 480 00:34:52,451 --> 00:34:56,451 It is a small discolored plane that matches Noah's description. 481 00:34:57,451 --> 00:34:59,451 Could this be Noah's plane? 482 00:34:59,451 --> 00:35:05,451 And if it is, can the team confirm that it was brought down by an unidentified object? 483 00:35:16,451 --> 00:35:18,451 Well, it was a plane. 484 00:35:18,451 --> 00:35:20,451 It wasn't a Cherokee though. 485 00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:21,451 How do you know? 486 00:35:21,451 --> 00:35:23,451 Cargo door, port side on the stern. 487 00:35:23,451 --> 00:35:25,451 I think it was a Piper Warrior. 488 00:35:25,451 --> 00:35:27,451 It's the next size up. 489 00:35:27,451 --> 00:35:30,451 The Cherokee did not have a cargo door. 490 00:35:33,451 --> 00:35:38,451 Noah's plane was a Piper Cherokee, a low-wing four-passenger aircraft. 491 00:35:38,451 --> 00:35:44,451 The plane at this location is larger and features a cargo door on the port stern, 492 00:35:44,451 --> 00:35:47,451 a feature not found on Noah's Cherokee. 493 00:35:50,451 --> 00:35:53,451 The plane has seemingly vanished. 494 00:35:57,451 --> 00:35:59,451 What the f***? 495 00:36:00,451 --> 00:36:03,451 How many plane wrecks are around here anyway? 496 00:36:05,451 --> 00:36:08,451 Well, it's possible that it's drifted down, down slope. 497 00:36:08,451 --> 00:36:10,451 It backs up your theory. 498 00:36:12,451 --> 00:36:15,451 And the plane we're looking for went in 28 years ago, 499 00:36:15,451 --> 00:36:17,451 so it could have drifted even further than this one. 500 00:36:17,451 --> 00:36:19,451 It could be quite a bit deeper. 501 00:36:20,451 --> 00:36:23,451 We found a plane, but it's not Noah's plane. 502 00:36:23,451 --> 00:36:25,451 Now, according to Ted's lab science, 503 00:36:25,451 --> 00:36:28,451 the plane should have moved right around this area. 504 00:36:28,451 --> 00:36:31,451 The problem is, the plane's not here. 505 00:36:31,451 --> 00:36:33,451 So my question is, where is the plane? 506 00:36:33,451 --> 00:36:37,451 For me, it just deepens the USO mystery around Catalina Island. 507 00:36:41,451 --> 00:36:43,451 So what do we have for our theories? 508 00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:47,451 Number one is that the plane has been pushed up onto the shore and destroyed. 509 00:36:48,451 --> 00:36:51,451 Number two theory is that because of the wave motion, 510 00:36:51,451 --> 00:36:53,451 the tide motion, the wind motion, 511 00:36:53,451 --> 00:36:56,451 it's been agitated and fallen down the slope into the depths. 512 00:36:57,451 --> 00:37:01,452 If we are considering that there is a USO base around here, 513 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:06,452 maybe they took the plane or did something with the plane to hide their presence. 514 00:37:06,452 --> 00:37:10,452 I don't think we can confirm or deny that hypothesis. 515 00:37:11,452 --> 00:37:14,452 Well, Noah Feliz is a very credible witness. 516 00:37:14,452 --> 00:37:18,452 And I mean, I feel strongly that something happened here, 517 00:37:18,452 --> 00:37:27,452 so I say we can't dismiss that possibility of some sort of extraterrestrial intervention with this plane. 518 00:37:28,452 --> 00:37:34,452 In 1980, pilot Noah Feliz asserts that his plane was attacked by a beam of light 519 00:37:34,452 --> 00:37:38,452 that took control of his craft and caused it to crash. 520 00:37:38,452 --> 00:37:45,452 The team wants to know, is it possible that an aircraft could be disabled by an electromagnetic pulse? 521 00:37:46,452 --> 00:37:54,452 Speculation is that this USO sent an electromagnetic pulse or an EMP at the aircraft, disabling it, 522 00:37:54,452 --> 00:37:57,452 so he found himself with no power and crashed. 523 00:37:59,452 --> 00:38:03,452 The team meets at Tyndall's lab to test this hypothesis. 524 00:38:03,452 --> 00:38:05,452 This one's going to be a little bit dangerous, 525 00:38:05,452 --> 00:38:10,452 but I think it's going to give us some amazing insight into the case with Noah Feliz and the USO. 526 00:38:10,452 --> 00:38:17,452 We're going to see if our strong EMP pulse can disable the function of the engine. 527 00:38:17,452 --> 00:38:20,452 We've taken a very, very powerful electromagnet. 528 00:38:20,452 --> 00:38:23,452 Turn it on a little bit there, Jeff. You can see it holds the magnet. 529 00:38:23,452 --> 00:38:24,452 Like that turned off. 530 00:38:24,452 --> 00:38:30,452 Okay. This magnet is unlike your regular magnets, which have a north and south pole, and they remain that way. 531 00:38:30,452 --> 00:38:33,452 This magnet is an alternating current magnet. 532 00:38:33,452 --> 00:38:36,452 It's working off the AC, and it's fluctuating back and forth. 533 00:38:36,452 --> 00:38:38,452 Now that means we can induce current. 534 00:38:38,452 --> 00:38:43,452 That is to say, we can take this magnetic field, put it in close proximity to this steel bar, 535 00:38:43,452 --> 00:38:47,452 and cause the electrons to flow in that winding, and it'll light this light. 536 00:38:47,452 --> 00:38:51,452 Okay, Jeff, turn that baby up. There you see the light coming on. 537 00:38:53,452 --> 00:38:58,452 This demonstrates how you can actually create and control and direct a magnetic field 538 00:38:58,452 --> 00:39:05,452 and apply that to some other object without even touching it from distance and induce an electrical current. 539 00:39:05,452 --> 00:39:12,452 The electrical current used to run the airplane engine could have been interrupted by a strong electromagnetic force. 540 00:39:12,452 --> 00:39:20,452 If the reports are true, and the object did indeed shoot a strong electromagnetic beam that engulfed Noah's plane, 541 00:39:20,452 --> 00:39:23,452 that beam could have shut down the engine. 542 00:39:23,452 --> 00:39:28,452 In the magneto of an engine, basically on the flywheel, you have a permanent magnet. 543 00:39:28,452 --> 00:39:33,452 And what happens is, as the flywheel goes around, it passes through this coil 544 00:39:33,452 --> 00:39:38,452 and generates an electrical impulse, which comes up to the spark plug and fires the engine off. 545 00:39:38,452 --> 00:39:44,452 So what we're going to try to do now is see if we can induce a current that this engine is not counting on 546 00:39:44,452 --> 00:39:49,453 that'll cause the spark to die and the engine to die, as was alleged in the USO incident. 547 00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:55,453 What we want to see is that if we can, for all intensive purposes, model an aircraft engine, 548 00:39:55,453 --> 00:40:00,453 generate our own EMP or electromagnetic pulse and disable the function of the engine. 549 00:40:00,453 --> 00:40:03,453 Guys, this is the dangerous part, so stand back. 550 00:40:03,453 --> 00:40:09,453 We have an EMP generator, which is basically a high-powered electromagnet, and we have an engine, 551 00:40:09,453 --> 00:40:14,453 and we will direct the magnetic field at the engine and see whether or not we can disable it. 552 00:40:14,453 --> 00:40:17,453 Clear? Clear problem. 553 00:40:26,453 --> 00:40:28,453 Okay, Jeff. 554 00:40:37,453 --> 00:40:39,453 Okay, got it, Jeff. 555 00:40:39,453 --> 00:40:41,453 Wow. Wow. 556 00:40:41,453 --> 00:40:43,453 Well, that did it. 557 00:40:43,453 --> 00:40:47,453 This was a small demonstration of what could have happened at a larger scale, 558 00:40:47,453 --> 00:40:52,453 but it did demonstrate that as he got the magnet close in, it overpowered the coil here, 559 00:40:52,453 --> 00:40:56,453 disrupted the flow of electrons to the spark plug, and disabled the engine. 560 00:40:56,453 --> 00:40:59,453 What occurred to me is that airplanes, because everything is lightweight, 561 00:40:59,453 --> 00:41:03,453 not much steel, not much iron used, which are things that could diffuse a magnetic field. 562 00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:08,453 So if there was a magnetic field focused at said airplane, it wouldn't really have a whole lot stopping it 563 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:10,453 before it did get to the magnet or other wiring. 564 00:41:10,453 --> 00:41:16,453 So could you possibly induce, through this electromagnetic, too much energy to the spark plug 565 00:41:16,453 --> 00:41:18,453 and possibly cause it to do something? 566 00:41:18,453 --> 00:41:24,453 If you could generate an extremely strong magnetic field, make it a directable, sort of weaponized system, 567 00:41:24,453 --> 00:41:31,453 it is conceivable that you could disable a general aviation aircraft engine from a distance like 1,000 feet. 568 00:41:31,453 --> 00:41:39,453 This is a really great example of taking a story that's told by one of our witnesses, 569 00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:45,453 modeling it out and showing that what he says works in the lab. 570 00:41:53,453 --> 00:42:01,453 I believe that this area is some kind of UFO hotspot based on highly credible witness testimony alone. 571 00:42:01,453 --> 00:42:05,453 I think it's all mostly anecdotal evidence, it's testimony and stories from people, 572 00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:10,453 and frankly, without finding that aircraft, I don't have the scientific evidence, the meat that I can get into 573 00:42:10,453 --> 00:42:12,453 to really come to any kind of conclusion. 574 00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:17,453 Well, where are you with Preston Dennett's theory that the USO itself took the object, 575 00:42:17,453 --> 00:42:20,453 because there were traces of that USO on the object? 576 00:42:20,453 --> 00:42:27,453 If we're to believe that they intervened in Noah Felicia's crash, then we can't deny the possibility 577 00:42:27,453 --> 00:42:30,454 that they intervened again and did something with the plane. 578 00:42:30,454 --> 00:42:37,454 The science behind the USO says it's enormously possible. 579 00:42:37,454 --> 00:42:40,454 Our witnesses that we've interviewed, phenomenally credible. 580 00:42:40,454 --> 00:42:42,454 In fact, their stories are frightening. 581 00:42:42,454 --> 00:42:48,454 We have documentation going all the way back to Christopher Columbus, and from Christopher Columbus, 582 00:42:48,454 --> 00:42:55,454 all the way to recent calls to the Sheriff's Station up in Lost Hills, that people have seen USOs. 583 00:42:55,454 --> 00:43:00,454 You put all these together, and I believe that USO is real. 584 00:43:00,454 --> 00:43:07,454 I believe they're real, I believe they're out there, I believe they're here, and I've been here for thousands of years.